10,000 signatures collected to amend Article 112
The Campaign Committee to Amend Article 112 (CCAA) has already collected over 10,000 signatures to propose the Nitirat bill to Parliament to amend the lèse majesté law.
The group, which consists of academics, activists and writers, will hold an activity on 27 May to conclude the signature-collection campaign, which started earlier this year, and discuss the issue.
The activity will take place at the Sriburapha Auditorium at the Tha Prachan campus of Thammasat University.
Programme
1 – 1.15 pm: Press Conference
- Wad Rawee, member of Sang Sumnuek Writers group
- Yukti Mukdawijit, Faculty of Sociology and Anthropology, Thammasat University
1.15 – 1.45 pm: ‘Voices of 112 victims’
1.45 -2 pm: Poem reading
2 – 3 pm: Discussion on the Campaign
- Wad Rawee, member of Sang Sumnuek Writers group
- Suda Rangkuphan, Faculty of Arts, Chulalongkorn University
- Piyabutr Saengkanokkul, Nitirat
Moderated by Wiangrat Netipho, Faculty of Political Science, Chulalongkorn University
3 – 3.15: Music by the Middle Finger
3.15 – 5 pm: Discussion ‘112 Richter Phenomenon’
- Charnvit Kasetsiri, historian
- Nidhi Eawsriwong, historian
- Worachet Pakeerut, Nitirat
Moderated by Puangthong Pawakapan, Faculty of Political Science, Chulalongkorn University
On 10 May, the second day of funeral rites for Amphon Tangnoppakul was held at Wat Dan Samrong in Samut Prakan province, where he lived with his family, after the first day in front of the Criminal Court in Bangkok. It was attended by about 500 red shirts and sympathizers, including Thida Thavornset and other leaders of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship and some Pheu Thai MPs.
The UDD leaders and Phue Thai Party have been strongly criticized by some factions of the red shirts, including Thammasat lecturer Somsak Jeamteerasakul, for having done nothing on the lèse majesté issue.
The funeral rites for Amphon will continue at the temple until 16 May.
Today, a red shirt group led by Nithiwat Wannasiri went to Parliament to extend an invitation to attend Amphon’s funeral to Abhisit Vejjajiva’s personal secretary Somkiat Krongwattanasuk, who had filed charges against Amphon.
A representative of the Democrat Party was sent to receive the invitation, telling Nithiwat and his friends that Somkiat had not come to Parliament today.
Nithiwat and Democrat Party's representative at Parliament
Later, the group of red shirts went to the Criminal Court to extend the same invitation to three court personnel: Sitthisak Wanachakij, the spokesperson for the Court of Justice who had written a newspaper article condemning Amphon for his alleged offenses; Chanathip Muanpawong, head of the panel of judges sentencing Amphon; and Criminal Court Chief Justice Thawee Prachuablarp, who recently misleadingly told the press after Amphon’s death that Amphon had been ineligible for bail because he had withdrawn his appeal and been in the process of seeking a royal pardon.
In fact, Amphon was denied bail eight times before giving up his appeal and deciding to seek a royal pardon instead.
Invitation received by Criminal Court PR official Suchada Kaewsongprasit
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This is very heartening news
This is very heartening news in a very sad month. The link to Chanathip Muanpawong is inoperative.
Thanks for fixing Ms.
Thanks for fixing Ms. Chanatip's link. I see that the original source of the infamous quote ...
... is listed ... The trial on the case study of Internet & Intermediary liability in Thailand.
Well ... no more suspense as to the verdict of Chiranuch on the 30 May 2012. Ms. Chanathip is on record as having decided it on 31 May 2010. Before Chiranuch's show trial even began.
Perhaps in light of such mis/malfeasance that 'trial' can now, finally, be summarily dropped?
Chanathip is a man.
Chanathip is a man.
Wow! I quoted from what I
Wow! I quoted from what I assumed was Thai Netizen Network's first person report ... 'Ms. Chanathip'. Was Thai Netizen Network not actually present at the hearing to notice that Chanathip was a man? If they were not there ... how do they know what was said?
Nitirat has exposed itself
Nitirat has exposed itself completely as a tool of Thaksin - promoting Constitution amendments that solely benefit his return to power and absolutely nothing else. Their rallies are attended entirely by Thaksin's red shirts, and even Thaksin's corporate lobbyist, Robert Amsterdam...
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/01/globalist-lawyer-attends-color.html
Now - with Amphon's SMS's turning out to be vicious, and very criminal death threats - that would have landed him in prison in ANY country - Nitirat's legitimacy is further diminished after long winded rants about how he was simply exercising "free speech."
Amphon was a criminal - criminals must go to jail. Allowing him to walk for sending death threats would quickly unravel social order - and green light a movement already built on terror and intimidation to continue threatening and then carrying out acts of violence.
Anyone can hire a gaggle of academics like Nitirat and get them to rubber stamp and sell just about anything. That's why in any debate - you have all sorts of experts with all sorts of letters proceeding and following their names on BOTH sides. I believe that Thaksin's opponents also have an academic front peddling their point of view...
The only hired thug I can see
The only hired thug I can see here is from Land Destroyer, which links to the extremist and conspiricist Infowars.com which is owned by Alex Jones. He accepts advertising from Midas Resources (http://www.midasresources.com/store/store.php?ref=62&promo=specialOffer) which is “One of the world's premiere precious metals firms, parent company of The Genesis Communications Network, proud sponsor of the extremist Campaign For Liberty (sic).
Midas Resources was founded in 1996 by Ted Anderson. He and Alex Jones are collaborators, with Jones appearing on the Genesis Communications Network, where Anderson is CEO (http://www.gcnlive.com/contact.php). It was established to promote the sale of precious metals (http://www.gcnlive.com/faq.php) and supports a bunch of right-wing fascists. For example, GCN has interviewed anti-Semite extremist Lyndon LaRouche (http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2008/interviews/080401jack_blood_genesis.html). LaRouche also has a fan in another link at Land Destroyer in F.W. Engdahl, yet another conspiracy theorist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._William_Engdahl).
Jones and Anderson have promoted conspiracy rants by the extremist and racist John Birch Society (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201101290003).
Nice company you keep Tony. Criminals, thugs, racists and the extreme right with Nazi sympathies.
Let Tony taunt the dead, it
Let Tony taunt the dead, it gives him a buzz. He probably does this as a "hobby" in between fiddling with little kids.
And nothing like the
And nothing like the shameless exploitation of a man's death - a man incited by violent criminal speech on the UDD's stages in 2010 - who, most likely only in poor judgement and in an emotional state of mind - sent death threats - not free speech.
These people disgust me - they used Amphon's conviction, imprisonment, and death as a political football - purposefully trying to compound his tragedy for maximum effect -with UDD members themselves accusing UDD leaders of throwing him under the bus.
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU.
What would you know about
What would you know about "shame" Tony? I didn't see pipe up when Ampon was shamelessly mistreated and denied medical treatment or even a medical check up for 2 years.
It's YOU who disgusts people to the pit of their stomachs, Tony. Your endless attacks on a dead man, with no regard for the feelings of Ampon's wife or his family, say a lot about your character.
Someone should push YOU under a bus and force all the venom in your vein to squirt out. Where's your proof anyway? You lying worm.
Emilio - I assume you are a
Emilio - I assume you are a "grown man," or what passes as one these days, - everything that I've written about Akong's case comes from Thai Political Prisoners and your own Andrew Marshall of Thai-Story who published the full contents of Akong's SMS's.
I've also had Pravit tell me Akong's lawyer told him Akong's SMS's contained only "insults," not threats - while this is obviously a lie, it reveals that indeed even his lawyer believes Akong sent them - at a rally he admitted he attended, with his phone.
So go argue with your own movement - who while as clearly biased as you, at least is abreast of the facts and not making TOTAL fools of themselves.
Threatening to kill someone is a crime. You go to jail for committing crimes. Society cannot function if criminals are allowed to conduct their activities with impunity. Do you have proof Akong was denied treatment? Did I say that was ok? Of course not. Just more lies and diversions to obfuscate a political stunt that is sorely backfiring on all of you.
Finally - Emilio - say whatever you want - but every comment you make that is full of vulgarity, insults, and anything but intelligent discourse reflects not only poorly on you, but your entire "cause."
"everything that I've written
"everything that I've written about Akong's case comes from Thai Political Prisoners and your own Andrew Marshall of Thai-Story who published the full contents of Akong's SMS's."
More complete fabrications. It is pathological. First, AMM's post makes it clear that the messages are not proven to have been sent by Amphon. But TC fabricates something else. Second, TC fabricates new messages out of those that are published. Third, his claims are not in the PPT post he claims to have used. He fabricates from what is there. Fourth, he has made up what he says about laws in other places - on the US, he couldn't even cite the correct law.
Nothing TC says is able to be taken seriously because he is a propagandist for extremists.
I didn't parade Akong's
I didn't parade Akong's coffin around in front of the court - and I wasn't accused by UDD members of letting him rot in prison. That was you and your camp. You continue to use this man's death as a political football - if you could come off the playground for a moment and read what I wrote last year about the case, you'd see that politicizing this issue would only work against Akong - not in his favor.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/11/exposing-wall-streets-human-rights.html
Militant, crass demagogues like yourself make it politically impossible to show leniency on people like Akong - who in reality DID send death threats - not free speech.
So if you want to know why the book was thrown at him - look in the mirror. Instead of using him to advance your political agenda, if you all backed off, he might have been freed/pardoned - even possibly alive. It was never a matter of LM - but that's all you could talk about and your hate for Thailand and its institutions - with Akong's tragedy and death a vehicle for your agenda.
More fabrications. "It was
More fabrications. "It was never a matter of LM." But that is what the court's decision was about. Pity you know nothing about it.
Yippeeee!! Sit on that
Yippeeee!! Sit on that Yingluck! Now it's madam's turn to show the world why she does not believe in democracy.
3.15 – 5 pm: Discussion ‘112
The 'Richter Phenomenon' did not ring a bell, so I looked it up (pdf).
The 'experiment' involved drowning rats. The 'experimenters' purposefully drowned rats, measuring the time it took them to drown - trapped, forced to swim in water jars in which they could not float and from which they could not escape. The 'experimenters' varied their treatment of the rats and observed variations in the length of time the rats swam before they were eventually drowned. All the rats were drowned of course, just a question of how long they continued to swim before giving up.
I truly wonder if the esteemed professors are going to compare Amphon to a drowned rat? I truly hope not.
I think that if any comparison is apt ... and I find this whole 'experiment' so distasteful that as to be completely inapt ... the comparison between the 'experimenters' and the Hyper-Royalists is the only one in remotely apt at all.
Sorry for an uncreative
Sorry for an uncreative translation. Richter is supposed to refer to Richter Magnitude Scale as used to measure earthquakes.
That's a relief.
That's a relief.
Relief? That's the kind of
Relief? That's the kind of Corporate Fascist response I've come to expect from the US funded john francis lee. Relief is a strategy of NED funded NGOs to spread Thaksins global empire.
Admit it, you've been duped.
Anyone so stupid and
Anyone so stupid and misaligned must come out of the closet and reveal himself in full detail. Otherwise the rest of us will never get a moment's sleepppp.........z...............................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............
Well - Prachatai's readership
Well - Prachatai's readership has really degenerated - you've gone from backpedaling on the Akong case after finding out all your howling over "free speech" backfired when it turned out he had made death threats - a crime in any country.
Then you began attacking me personally - now someone has resorted to impersonating me - with other readers playing along - and of course folks like "Emilo" who are clearly incapable of intellectual discourse and are simply name-calling.
You've redefined the level of immaturity, deceit, and bias that flaunts itself here on Prachatai's pages and is indeed the the reality of Prachatia itself.
Prachatai had the audacity to defend censoring my comments - but allows the most vile, off-topic, deceitful comments imaginable to stand - of course, when it is directed toward anyone posing a contrary view.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/01/us-funded-rights-advocate-censoring.html
Clearly "free speech" is but a thin veil you use to hide one-sided propaganda - that is indeed funded by the US State Department...
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/08/exposed-indy-newspaper-funded-by-us.html
Please also note- no matter how low Prachatai & Co. stoop to undermine me, I will not resort to similar tactics.
You are a joke: "Please also
You are a joke: "Please also note- no matter how low Prachatai & Co. stoop to undermine me, I will not resort to similar tactics." Are we to consider lies and propaganda the height of your capacity then?
After all, it has been repeatedly shown on these pages that you can't carry a straight fact without distorting, lying and proagandizing. Just in the past three days you have lied on law, on the US justice system, on the court decision about Amphon, and have even concocted messages by hacking parts of separate messages into one and claimed them as real.
How low can you go?
Akong sent death threats - a
Akong sent death threats - a crime in any country - and now that we know the truth - you've all shifted your arguments after MONTHS of screaming about "free speech" and how he went to jail for simply "speaking his mind" to now "he never sent them."
No matter which US or European law you try to cite - "Albert" - Akong would still have gone to jail for YEARS for sending a threatening communication against a head of state - or ANYONE for that matter. You're miring the debate in minutia because you've failed to take it on directly.
That's the real crux of the issue - that you used it as a chance to push your agenda of undermining Thailand's institutions claiming it was a matter of free speech - when now we know a REAL crime took place. Now, as I've said before, if Prachatai & Co. had from the beginning made this simply about judicial proceedings and left "free speech" out of this - if they weren't using the case as a vehicle to advance their political agenda, I would have agreed with them - in fact, I myself made the point that the Thai justice system was flawed - but I also said Akong's case was compounded by the fact that both sides INCLUDING HIS BACKERS were USING HIM/EXPLOITING HIM, both sides making it impossible to deal justice.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/11/exposing-wall-streets-human-rights.html
Thank yourself.
Tony I never said AKong went
Tony
I never said AKong went to jail for free speech. I didn't know what was in the MSNs until two days ago.
AKongs case has always been about prove.
The LM law in general is about free speech. That is the point of LM law. To stop any speech, truth or not.
BTW. you would make a good candidate for the Thai judiciary. Extreme Royalist and slightly cracked.
AKong was not charged with
AKong was not charged with sending death threats he was charged with sending 4 SMS messages deemed offensive to the monarchy containing vulgar language defaming the Queen and insulting the honor or the monarchy.
No one could take the death threats seriously unless you think who ever sent the SMSs was trying to incite Abhisits secretary to commit the murder.
20 years for sending insulting messages no matter how gross is in itself very gross.
Betty, if someone said, "I'm
Betty, if someone said, "I'm going to stomp on your face." Then said, "you're going to die!" How would you take that? A death threat for sure - whether it was meant or was simply said in a moment of anger - it is still a death threat, and still punishable by law in ANY country - not just Thailand.
Akong was charged under LM for making these death threats - he didn't merely "defame" Thailand's head of state, he made specific threats against it. The flaw in the Thai judicial system - one that I have acknowledged last year and more recently in writing on this topic, is that we didn't know the true nature of these SMS's. I specifically said that we must know before we can consider this a case of "free speech." Of course justice and truth was never the goal and so the closet Thaksinites that run Prachatai & Co. used Akong's poor judgement and exploitation at the hands of UDD's leadership as a political vehicle for their own agenda.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/11/exposing-wall-streets-human-rights.html
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/05/breaking-thai-political-prisoner-guilty.html
Now Betty - you personally might not have made this an issue of "free speech," but Prachatai, Pravit, the US State Department that funds Prachatai and all the faux-rights advocates, closet Thakinites, did. And even after his death they howl - he was sent to jail for merely texting. He texted a threatening communication - a crime by any definition.
Tony Thanks for your reply.
Tony
Thanks for your reply. Of coarse you are right we don't want a society were people send death threats to each other. I would hate to receive one myself.
Do you agree that the law should be applied evenly? Members of the Nitirat group and people who criticized the Abhisit government have received direct death threats. I trust you agree the culprits should be tracked down and handed long jail sentences. Worajet Pakeerat was attacked in broad daylight by two royalist thugs. They are now walking free. If the situation was reversed and two red shirts attacked a prominent royalist do you think they would be free now?
BTW.
Did you hear what some speakers said about Thaksin and PTP on the red shirt stage on Sunday?
Seems at long last the red shirts are fast becoming daa sawang toward Thaksin as well as to 'The Family' I should think this will be more worrying to royalists like yourself than to the closet Thaksinites on Prachtai.
Love from your greatest fan
BS. PS. You keep saying AKong sent the SMSs even the judge wasn't sure about that.
The judge is inferior to me
The judge is inferior to me and my excellent reporting. He is a communist fascist.
Image: UDD has distanced
Image: UDD has distanced themselves from Thaksin, yet still wear Thaksin headbands, Thaksin t-shirts, carry Thaksin posters, and attend rallies organized by Thaksin's political clique, featuring call-ins by Thaksin himself.....
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LOL. Yes, Betty, I'm sure Thaksin is really worried that the UDD will slip beyond his control...
Saturday's rally was centered entirely around Thaksin's call-in, where he himself demands the constitution re-written.
Must be that reinstating himself into power just so happens to converge with "utopian socialist democratic" aspirations of the "totally independent thinkers" that constitute the UDD's membership - the ones not wearing Thaksin headbands, Thaksin amulets, Thaksin & Yingluck t-shirts, and my favorite - Yingluck and PTP umbrellas, that is. Daa Sawang?
In all honesty, Betty you ought be ashamed of defending how these people are being exploited.
Ironically, Thida (allegedly a communist) who had a week or two ago declared UDD as independent of both PTP and Thaksin, was presiding over this latest charade. I wonder, was she jeering during "Dear Leader's" speech? I couldn't hear her, everyone was screaming in rapture when Thaksin was speaking.
No one with a functioning brain could have watched that and walked away thinking this was about democracy, and not a dangerous, bizarre, exploitative personality cult - and at the very least, about anything else other than Thaksin.