Sombat: Constitution Court should be removed if it rules against constitutional amendments this Friday

Sombat Boon-ngam-anong, leader of the Red Sunday Group, presented his idea of petitioning the Constitution Court for its removal to a crowd of red shirts gathered in front of the Criminal Court on 8 July.

He reasoned that if the court were to rule against the proposed constitutional amendments, its action would be tantamount to overthrowing the political system as it would end the sovereignty of the legislative branch.

He urged those who disagreed with the court’s anticipated ruling to come out to stand in line in front of the court and each file her or his own complaint.

The activist was speaking to about 100 red shirts who gathered on the footpath in front of the Criminal Court, where a public forum has been held every Sunday for a few months now in their campaign to free political prisoners.

He argued that a similar Constitution Drafting Assembly had been set up several times before, for example, in 1974, 1997 and 2007.

He suggested that the red shirts adopt a political fight instead of a military one, because it would not lead to loss of life. And this would be inclusive, regardless of gender and age, while a military fight requires those involved to be youthful, armed and trained.

In his view, he said that many of the red shirts had been ferocious in the past, and it was understandable as they had been ‘subject to abuse’ all along.  In the past couple of years, however, they seem to have been calmer.  Nevertheless, they should continue to seek information and learn to be tolerant and rational.

He has seen some development among them along these lines, as ‘now the red shirts are starting not to listen to what their leaders have to say in their rally speeches, because they know what the leaders are up to, and they have packed rooms for academic discussions.’

He said that although fighting with reason might not necessarily lead to victory over your opponents, other people might listen and judge for themselves as to which side was more reasonable.

He also suggested that the red shirts organize themselves in small groups of about 10-15 people in their neighbourhood, to have discussions and learn from one another.

However he criticized about 80-90% of the red shirts he had met for being too obsessed with reviling their opponents, and hardly being aware of what they could contribute to their cause in their own capacities. 

He shared his experience of his ‘symbolic fights’, credited for revitalizing the red-shirt movement after the government crackdown in 2010. 

He said that he would consider ‘low-cost methods but with high impact’.  For example, a few months after the crackdown, when the red shirts were in low spirits, he organized an activity of tying pieces of red cloth at the Ratchaprasong intersection, at a cost of only 350 baht for 10 metres of cloth.  He had asked those who wanted to come to join the activity to bring their own pieces of red cloth.  In subsequent weeks, more and more people came out to join him until the police had to remove the intersection sign.

He urged the red shirts to be open to learning lessons and listening to criticism.

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He also suggested that the

He also suggested that the red shirts organize themselves in small groups of about 10-15 people in their neighbourhood, to have discussions and learn from one another.

And to choose their own leaders ... the UDD is the most undemocratic 'united front democracy' I've ever heard of. None of their 'Co-leaders' has ever been elected. They must have the same sort of democracy in mind as the Democrat Party. Sombat is the exception that proves the rule.

Yes, the Constitution Court should be removed if it rules against constitutional amendments this Friday. But it should be removed it it does not as well. It has no role as gatekeeper of the parliament. Thais need to listen to the Khana Nitirat. The Royal Thai Army's 2007 Substitution for the Constitution was wrong from 19 September 2006, and is at least as wrong now.

A valid Constitution is put in place peaceably, by the people, the sovereigns of the land. The Royal Thai Army's Substitution is the fruit of a crime. It is now and was in 2006 a crime to overthrow the government and to suspend the Constitution. The Nitirat's suggestion to roll back the illegal consequences of the Royal Thai Army's crime and to reinstate a valid Constitution and re-do the series of illegal decisions taken as a result of the military's crimes since 2006 makes sense.

Here's a short video from Tahrir Square, where the Egyptian people are facing very much the same problem as the Thais. The quote from the young man is the bottom line :

The peoples’ authority is higher than that of the court.

The Egyptians are standing on a foundation as solid as the pyramids themselves : popular sovereignty. The Thais, too, need the same rock solid foundation.

John a mob of voters

John a mob of voters operating beyond the confines of law is as much a tyranny as any traditional dictatorship - and this is not a new concept that has been created by the "Ammart" just for billionaire Thaksin Shinawatra's red shirts - this was noted and written extensively about by the ancient Greeks!

It's called ochlocracy, mob rule, and was identified as one of the fatal flaws of democracy. Knowing this fatal flaw, those creating the Constitution of the United States included an extensive system of checks and balances. Historical precedents like Operation Valkyrie illustrated that YES, under extreme circumstances, the military can intervene to remove a despotic, unhinged, unchecked tyranny.

Thaksin, by all accounts had become, or was on his way to becoming just such a threat - removed just in time.

Funny you should mention "Tahrir Square" never has there been such a contrived, artificial movement - both the April 6 Movement and the Muslim Brotherhood are tools of the West - the April 6 leadership literally in the US in 2008 receiving training, instructions, and funding from the US State Department. If you think corporate-financiers in America care about "democracy" you have a lot to learn.

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/11/how-to-start-wall-street-backed.html

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I really wish I knew the story about you John - how a grown man could be so profoundly ignorant, and not only that, so persistent in his ignorance. The constitution should be put in place by the people... which people, these people? The fanatical personality cult of Thaksin Shinawatra?

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Sombat seems not to

Sombat seems not to understand what checks and balances are.

Just because voting occurs, doesn't mean you have a legitimate or just government. The "sovereignty" of the legislative branch goes only as far as its adherence to the framework within which it operates.

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Image: Sombat - Thaksin's "slob activist." How "progressive!"

If that legislative branch openly operates as a proxy for a convicted, mass murdering billionaire criminal living abroad, they forfeit their "sovereignty" and measures to check the unwarranted power they seek to exercise taken. This is admitted - as PTP's campaign slogan was literally, "Thaksin Thinks, Peua Thai Does."

When that legislative branch attempts to rewrite the constitution for the benefit of a convicted criminal, who literally calls in to Sombat's legions of exploited, misled "red shirts" to demand said rewrite - you lose your legitimacy.

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Image: Mass murder, convicted criminal Thaksin Shinawatra's paid corporate lobbyist, Robert Amsterdam occupying the front row of Nitirat - UDD's failed rebranding campaign.

Sombat, the UDD, PTP, Nitirat, "Voice of Taksin," etc are all demonstrative tools of Thaksin Shinawatra.

Prachatai is such a joke. Funded by the US State Department, just like Sombat himself. FYI...

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/08/exposed-indy-newspaper-funded-by-us.html