Don’t Depend on the Embassy

The multitude of criminal defamation and lese majesté cases that has arisen in Thailand over the last few years, insofar as such cases apply to accused American persons, possibly represent clear and present danger to American persons who are by law and convention protected by the First Amendment of the Constitution of the Untied States. Whether the 2010 Speech Act does or can add further protection and recourse to counter initiatives against states and persons seen as infringing on First Amendment rights remains an unanswered question. At least two major United States agencies are involved in these issues – the Department of State and the US Judiciary.

To date, generally speaking, Thailand-based criminal defamation and lese majesté cases have been given “due concern” by the US government through the Department of State as part of its function to maintain the overall interests of the United States as they extend into the diplomatic, commercial and military cooperation spheres. At the same time, little attention, focus or effort seems to have been given to the First Amendment protections that American persons are guaranteed under the Constitution of the United States and subsequent court decisions and acts of Congress that have further strengthened and defined protections including protections against foreign states or others who file defamation suits against American persons who have exercised their First Amendment rights inside the United States but who subsequently became enmeshed in defamation suits abroad, as defendants in suits produced as a result of their legitimate exercise of First Amendment protected speech.

This is at the heart of Thailand’s self-insistence - that it maintains jurisdiction within the United States over American persons (read the 2010 Speech Act for definitions, as well as other previously published First Amendment legislation and academic papers) who exercise First Amendment rights within the United States. Over the past Thai persons and agencies have formally investigated, accused and charged such American persons with lese majesté and/or criminal defamation, as well as with violation of the 2007 Computer Crime Act, arising out of what the Thai side maintained was offensive and defamatory. Such persons have been arbitrarily arrested and imprisoned. Specifically, there was the case of royalist Thais in California who banded together, petitioned the Thai consulate and actually proceeded with charges against a fellow Thai for expression of opinion on a LA TV station. Thai police conducted an investigation, although the issue of lack of jurisdiction of the Thai state was totally overlooked.

Thai law is written so as to maintain the right to institute lese majesté or defamation offense charges against all persons no matter where they are. This kind of provision stands in direct violation and contradiction to United States laws, especially in relation to the First Amendment and exercise of free speech which permits the public to be informed of vital issues that affect public welfare. The 2010 Speech Act very clearly recognizes the propensity of many foreign governments (in this instance this commentator addresses the Thai state) to inhibit free speech and violate the rights of American persons. Five sections of the Speech Act, for example, read,

“ Congress finds the following:

            (1) The freedom of speech and the press is enshrined in the first amendment to the Constitution, and is necessary to promote the vigorous dialogue necessary to shape public policy in a representative democracy.

            (2) Some persons are obstructing the free expression rights of United States authors and publishers, and in turn chilling the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States interest of the citizenry in receiving information on matters of importance, by seeking out foreign jurisdictions that do not provide the full extent of free-speech protections to authors and publishers that are available in the United States, and

suing a United States author or publisher in that foreign jurisdiction.

 (3) These foreign defamation lawsuits not only suppress the free speech rights of the defendants to the suit, but inhibit other written speech that might otherwise have been written or published but for the fear of a foreign lawsuit.

(4) The threat of the libel laws of some foreign countries is so dramatic that the United Nations Human Rights Committee examined the issue and indicated that in some instances the law of libel has served to discourage critical media reporting on

matters of serious public interest, adversely affecting the ability of scholars and journalists to publish their work. The advent of the internet and the international distribution of foreign media also create the danger that one country's unduly restrictive libel law will affect freedom of expression worldwide on matters of valid public interest.

(5) Governments and courts of foreign countries scattered around the world have failed to curtail this practice of their courts, and foreign libel judgments inconsistent with United

States first amendment protections are increasingly common.”

It is clear, then, that the intent of the United States Congress and the President in passing and signing this bill into law that First Amendment rights of American persons, as exercised in the United States, shall be protected despite initiating of foreign defamation suits abroad – which seems to also cover lese majesté charges and allegations.

Based on the above, and on the limited intervention that any US Embassy or consular official can provide to Americans abroad who are in distress because of having exercised their First Amendment rights within the United States – as defined by various laws and decisions on free speech – it seems wise to pursue immediate petition to one’s own congressional representatives, local media where those representatives hold office and where the accused resides, to raise the issue of First Amendment interference by foreign powers. Thus it is not the relevant Embassy or consulate that should be resorted to for relief and protection, but the accused’s own congressional representatives, senators and local media in those congressional districts, and to notify friends and family in the United States to permit letter writing and telephone campaigning to bring pressure to bear.

For the accused in Thailand this would entail some sort of coordination with a local coordinating representative to initiate communication with relevant congressional representatives and/or district court officials (if judicial resource is possible and desired) to begin suit against the foreign interests perceived as infringing on the First Amendment rights of Americans who may physically overseas but who exercised their protected rights within the United States.

To this end, anyone interested in following up on or further discussing this matter, please contact me at raybradburyfan@yahoo.com We need to work together to resolve this wrongful series of laws Thailand maintains, and for those of us who are American persons, we must jointly address these injustices by the Thai state, as the diplomatic corps does not have the portfolio to do so.

Comments

Do not forget that the US

Do not forget that the US diplomatic corps and Embassy in Lahore worked ceaselessly to free the alleged murderer of two Pakistanis, Raymond Davis, earlier this year.

The US govt and embassy could easily cause a huge stink over Joe Gordon.

It won't.

And Joe could die in prison.

But I guess Kristie and Bangkok's social media community had a great party this week.

Yes, that was a terrible

Yes, that was a terrible incident there in Pakistan. You cite it as if you were there. I was not, but read that the guys were trying to rob the wrong guy who, knowing Pakistan is one of the most dangerous places on earth (strange that Bin Laden could live there for five or so years without Pakistani government or local officials knowing this), and taking personal action to make sure his head, literally, does not get cut off. I'm one of those relatively conservative people who believe in self-defense, and that if someone points a gun at you, that's license to do whatever you feel necessary to protect yourself. Not ask to discuss the situation, but take care of it.
Murder? Read a dictionary.
As to the embassy helping in one case and not another, as in any country's intelligence agencies, you had better believe that these guys get priority. It is not fair, but consider the things they deal with. As well, it's not the embassy's mission just to protect Americans per se, but American interests. I wish the Embassy could roll out a red carpet for me, but then I would be as self-deluded as some others I see making comments..........

Actually Frank you sound like

Actually Frank you sound like you were in Pakistan. And when you were there maybe you thought everyone is just a fanatical Muslim who deserves the death sentence if they get within 50feet of an American, right? Just ask the 100s of 1000s of dead Iraqi civilians about the logic of the USA's "self defence".

Raymond Davis was arrested and charged. He was bailed out by the US government who went to extraordinary efforts to get him released including the payment of millions of US dollars in blood money something which, incidentally, is an admission of guilt.

And don't forget this is the same US govt that also uses Human Rights and right to freedom of expression as political leverage in places such as Libya, Iran, Burma etc. That actually quotes the kind of HR being denied to Joe Gordon as one of the causes for engaging in the use of military force against nations that pose no threat whatsoever to Americans.

Realpolitik dictates Joe could die in prison. But that doesn't mean he should do so while people remain silent and make weak and pathetic excuses for a weak and pathetic US Embassy.

Pressure must be maintained on Kristie Kenney and attempting to dismiss anyone who does so as "self-deluded" is hardly the way to mount an effective, multi-faceted campaign. The US Embassy should be reminded every single day that a US national could die in a Thai prison for a freedom of expression "crime" committed on US soil.

If you don't want to do that, fine, you write to your senators etc. I certainly wish you well while doing so and certainly think that is something worth supporting. But don't denigrate those who are going to continue to draw attention to the ineffectiveness of the US Embassy in Bangkok. It might get you all stirred up on a patriotic level to think other people might not trust the glorious US of A but here's a thing - welcome to the real world.

Best of luck.

"As to the embassy helping in

"As to the embassy helping in one case and not another, as in any country's intelligence agencies, you had better believe that these guys get priority. It is not fair, but consider the things they deal with."

You mean like rendition to torture camps? Sending entirely young kids to Guantanamo? Waterboarding? Arranging secret arms sales to "enemy" nations to facilitate illegal wars in other countries? Or how about teaching the security services in the developing world how to torture people more effectively? Assassinations? Aiding military coups?

Should I stop "considering the things they deal with"?

I mean I understand these guys get their hands dirty but to just simply accept that they should get preferential treatment is a bit worrying. Power is never held in check by just simply saying nothing.

The US is interested in

The US is interested in waging war. That's the extent of its 'foreign policy' these days. The State Department is the ugly step-child of the War Department. It's a very profitable pursuit for those directly involved in munitions manufacture and supply. And they are the ones defining US policy. They are the ones Obama/Clinton work for. They've just opened up a new front for aggression in North Africa.

The US has also targeted China as the next 'demon regime' and so is making nice with the powers that be here in Southeast Asia in an attempt to further that design. The US has always favored the Thai Army over the Thai people. Democracy means as much to Obama/Clinton as it does to Abhisit/Suthep... it's something you put on a flag and wave around, while supporting regimes like those in Bahrain, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the rest.

As for free speech... I'm sure you've all seen the video of Hilary's thugs beating 71 year old, ex-CIA man Ray McGovern simply for standing silently with his back to her in protest of the Obama/Clinton aggression in Afghanistan and Pakistan at one of her harangues at other countries for not allowing free speech. The US is hypocrite number one. Hypocrisy is one of the few areas in which the US still 'excels'.

I copied CJ Hincke's letter, added my own words in preface, and sent it to Kristie in Krungthep. I'm sure it hit the bit-bucket as soon as it arrived. The Powers That Be in the USA care as much for the opinions of Americans as the PTB in Bangkok care for the opinions of Thais. Which is not at all.

Now, if you could get Netanyahu to demand help for Joe Gordon you would get a response. The whole Congress would be on its feet, at least 29 times, demanding it! And Obama/Clinton would be running on their knees, with all the sincerity of Thai Army generals before HM the King of Thailand, but still seeing to it that the wishes of the Israelis were immediately met in every detail.

This appears to be one of

This appears to be one of those reasons politicians are told to keep their lips tight even when innocently asked the time of day: issues will get blown out of proportion and what means one thing and one thing only will be twisted into a convoluted morass of indignant denial and accusations from a broad spectrum of people who do not bother to follow logic, let alone common sense when even the smallest word is maligned and on it are superimposed ghosts and goblins.
No one is arguing, for example, that pressure should not be maintained on the Embassy. But one can ask what kind of pressure, from whom, with what kind of informed judgment and for what precise purpose?
The point is also that a couple of readers made comments on these pages that went beyond the their power to know, as many of us often do. Not sure where this angry indignation about "entirely young" (what does this mean? - and this is an English language question not from someone who likes the idea of imprisoned innocent victims) came from because if you read the words you can also interpret them to mean that deference to intelligence-related staff at embassies or even more widely, intelligence staff countrywide here or in other countries, is a reality for special reasons - some of them perhaps justified, others not.
There used to be a time - maybe not - when people read what someone else wrote and tried to understand what it meant if the meaning was not absolutely clear to all. That era seems to have passed us by. Read, denounce. Yes, I fall into the trap myself from time to time, but puhlease...........seek first to understand and then to be understood.

OK the dubious and ruthless

OK the dubious and ruthless US policies, two-faced when it comes to freedom of speech, aside, I have one question which I think should be answered. Of course it can be answered but the posing of the question itself suggests more amiss than meets the eye.

How is it, the US cannot guarantee its own citizens' right of freedom of speech throughout the world but, Thailand can guarantee imprisoning people around the world for lese majeste? Should they ever set foot on Thai soil that is.

Simply put the US can not force Thailand to accept a US citizen has a right to freedom of speech.

Thailand though can impose prison sentences on people, Thai citizens or not, for speaking, writing or acting in ways it deems unacceptable, even when the act occurs outside of Thailand. In other words Thailand can over-rule the freedom of speech exercised by someone in the US. Or elsewhere.

Foreign citizens have at various times been arrested when entering Thailand for having committed acts of lese majeste outside of Thailand.

How can the rest of the world accept this? Thailand is not a colonial power of the 19th century.

A lawyer specialized in

A lawyer specialized in international law? We need one here to tell it like it really is.
Re.:"Foreign citizens have at various times been arrested when entering Thailand for having committed acts of lese majeste outside of Thailand."
Correct that to "for having been deemed to, or accused of"rather than "having committed". The issue of jurisdiction still applies, I am afraid. Thailand is finding this out re. Phreah Vihear. A country can maintain and enforce but that does not make it right. National autonomy is real but not always cranked up to what it is portrayed to be.

Frank Apologies that should

Frank

Apologies that should have read "Sending entirely innocent* young kids to Guantanamo?"

What I would say on the "law" question is that Thailand fails to uphold the rule of law in dozens of other areas.

One of the key areas is impunity for the Thai Army to act however it wants, from Tak Bai to Ratchaprasong, to Thammasat and boat loads of Rohingya refugees, the RTA gets away with THE most heinous acts.

And who has provided unrelenting support for this Army as it stages coup after coup, massacre after massacre? The USA.

In fact, the USA could be considered a party to these criminal acts. It arms, trains and supports the perpetrators.

As for pressure being continued to be put on the US Embassy - through an unrelenting campaign, using the media, social media or whatever.

A US citizen could die in a Thai jail. Doing anything to prevent that is worthwhile, no? What would you hope people to do if you were in prison cell under similar circumstances? Wait for the one body (US govt) that is the closest supporters of your jailers to take action?

Frank-I was wondering if you

Frank-I was wondering if you had more info on the case in Los Angeles about the Thai royalists who pressed charges against a fellow Thai.I've looked on the net,but haven't come up with anything.Talk about creeping hands!Are they serious?